I was eight when my mum and dad divorced and then, you know everything just went haywire.

Um, the four older boys lived with mum dad and me and Mac lived with mum.

They lived at this house with this girl named Kristen, which is my step-mum.

Um, and then they started getting close and they started dating.

They told us that, you know, " like, I'm gay" and I was like, "okay, I don't really mind, at all".

And that's really, kind of it. Kristen had a baby and the older brothers went on to do their own things.

I was upset about mum and dad , you know, splitting. I would talk to dad and dad would make very
clear that I'm still part of his family no matter what happens.

It was different, the way to put it.

I'd live with my mum and then on the weekends, or every second weekend, I'd go to my dad's and hang out with all the older brothers,
apart from my eldest who would be living in a different house.

I felt like mum would always give me the good parts of it so I didn't feel sad, like, "you'll get two Christmas presents and me and dad will always try and best each other".

And I'm just like, "oh yeah", and I was really happy.

Ultimately, it's about Griffin and Mac and their ongoing connection with their father and their brothers.

And so for us to be able to facilitate a really positive relationship with me and my ex-husband, the primary motivation for that is for the
boys to know that we're really comfortable together and we can talk about whatever.

I didn't really talk to kids about it, I'd just act normally.

But when my friends would come over, they'd say, "why don't you live at this house?' and I'd just say, "long story", tell them about
exactly what I just said and they'd just be understanding. They wouldn't be like, "oh that's weird", they'd just be like, "oh, okay".

I just feel, like, included in everything, which is really great.

Because I can be included in all sorts of different communities, if you put it in that way.

My dad's a very sporty person and so are all my brothers, and so we go to a sports game and enjoy it.

I'd be with mum and we'd be in this, you know, Rainbow Family community and all sorts of different, like, all sorts of things like that.

It's really important for us to be involved in a community like that.

I know Griffin has spoken before about just having that safe place to be. And for Mac as well.

When we go and do events and different things with Rainbow Families, it's just a nice opportunity to be with people who are the same as you,
sort of, just be in that environment and be comfortable.